{"id":2715,"date":"2025-12-11T17:59:48","date_gmt":"2025-12-11T16:59:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/?p=2715"},"modified":"2026-01-08T10:37:14","modified_gmt":"2026-01-08T09:37:14","slug":"__trashed-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/__trashed-3\/","title":{"rendered":"L&rsquo;avis des passants : la phrase choc du g\u00e9n\u00e9ral Fabien Mandon"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"2715\" class=\"elementor elementor-2715\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-26c84feb e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"26c84feb\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-45df864 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"45df864\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Par Claire Veillon, Prisca Bordelais, Liam Lachaume<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-382bfbd elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"382bfbd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Fabien-Mandon-1024x683.jpeg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-2840\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Fabien-Mandon-1024x683.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Fabien-Mandon-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Fabien-Mandon-768x512.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Fabien-Mandon-1536x1024.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Fabien-Mandon-2048x1365.jpeg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e58e820 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e58e820\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u00a9 Pexels<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5fc44d01 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5fc44d01\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<style>\n\/* Style g\u00e9n\u00e9ral *\/\n.micro-intro,\n.micro-text {\n    font-size: 17px;\n    line-height: 1.7;\n    font-family: inherit;\n    color: #000;\n    text-align: justify;\n}\n\n\/* Intro *\/\n.micro-intro {\n    max-width: 900px;\n    margin: 0 auto 70px auto;\n}\n\n\/* Rang\u00e9es *\/\n.micro-row {\n    display: flex;\n    align-items: center;\n    gap: 40px;\n    margin: 70px 0;\n}\n\n\/* Inversion image\/texte *\/\n.micro-row.reverse {\n    flex-direction: row-reverse;\n}\n\n\/* Bloc image *\/\n.micro-img-block {\n    width: 40%;\n    display: flex;\n    flex-direction: column;\n}\n\n\/* Image *\/\n.micro-img-block img {\n    width: 100%;\n    max-width: 500px;\n    height: auto;\n    border-radius: 6px;\n}\n\n\/* L\u00e9gende *\/\n.micro-caption {\n    font-size: 16px;\n    font-style: italic;\n    margin-top: 12px;\n    color: #000;\n}\n\n\/* Bloc texte *\/\n.micro-text {\n    width: 55%;\n    display: flex;\n    align-items: center;\n}\n\n\/* Mobile *\/\n@media (max-width: 900px) {\n    .micro-row,\n    .micro-row.reverse {\n        flex-direction: column;\n        align-items: flex-start;\n    }\n\n    .micro-img-block,\n    .micro-text {\n        width: 100%;\n    }\n\n    .micro-text {\n        margin-top: 20px;\n    }\n}\n<\/style>\n\n<!-- INTRO -->\n<div class=\"micro-intro\">\nCe mercredi 3 d\u00e9cembre, au centre commercial de La D\u00e9fense (92, Puteaux), entre les passants press\u00e9s de rentrer chez eux ou de finir leurs emplettes, nous avons pris le temps de discuter avec certains d\u2019entre eux. Ils donnent leur avis sur les propos du g\u00e9n\u00e9ral Fabien Mandon, d\u00e9clarant que les Fran\u00e7ais devraient \u00eatre pr\u00eats \u00e0 \u00ab sacrifier leurs enfants \u00bb dans le cadre du conflit russo-ukrainien. Propos qui, pour rappel, ont provoqu\u00e9 une pol\u00e9mique et de vives r\u00e9actions politiques.\n<\/div>\n\n<!-- CAMILLE -->\n<div class=\"micro-row\">\n    <div class=\"micro-img-block\">\n        <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image2.jpg\" alt=\"Camille Lops\">\n        <div class=\"micro-caption\">Camille Lops, 26 ans \u2013 En recherche d\u2019emploi dans le tourisme.<\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    <div class=\"micro-text\">\n        \u00ab Je n\u2019ai pas du tout entendu parler de cette phrase. En r\u00e9alit\u00e9, je comprends ce que le g\u00e9n\u00e9ral a voulu dire, mais la mani\u00e8re dont les propos ont \u00e9t\u00e9 formul\u00e9s est beaucoup trop brutale. En fait, je pense qu\u2019il a mal formul\u00e9 sa phrase et que ces propos sont donc trop brusques. \u00bb\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<!-- MATHIAS -->\n<div class=\"micro-row reverse\">\n    <div class=\"micro-img-block\">\n        <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image1.jpg\" alt=\"Mathias Giron\">\n        <div class=\"micro-caption\">Mathias Giron, 21 ans \u2013 Employ\u00e9 en communication.<\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    <div class=\"micro-text\">\n        \u00ab Non pas du tout. Concernant la phrase en elle-m\u00eame, les mots sont forts et selon moi mal choisis. Mon p\u00e8re \u00e9tant dans l\u2019arm\u00e9e, je comprends que cette phrase puisse choquer, surtout dans un contexte o\u00f9 il y a un retour du service militaire volontaire (annonce de son retour par le pr\u00e9sident le 27 novembre 2025). \u00bb\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<!-- THA\u00cfS -->\n<div class=\"micro-row\">\n    <div class=\"micro-img-block\">\n        <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/master-crdm.parisnanterre.fr\/blacksheep\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/image3.jpg\" alt=\"Tha\u00efs Hoibian\">\n        <div class=\"micro-caption\">Tha\u00efs Hoibian, 22 ans \u2013 \u00c9tudiante en sciences de l\u2019\u00e9ducation.<\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    <div class=\"micro-text\">\n        \u00ab Je n\u2019en ai pas entendu parler. Les gens parlent beaucoup du fait que la France pourrait entrer en guerre avec la Russie, mais cette phrase en particulier ne me dit rien. De base, je suis antimilitariste et je ne soutiens pas les concepts de fronti\u00e8res et de nations. Alors, je suis encore moins d\u2019accord avec l\u2019id\u00e9e de devoir servir ou de se sacrifier pour son pays. En plus, le terme m\u00eame de \u00ab sacrifice \u00bb me choque. Sacrifice, pour qui ? Tr\u00e8s bien, les personnes vont se sacrifier. \u00c7a va apporter quoi exactement ? Donc oui, je trouve \u00e7a choquant. \u00bb\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Par Claire Veillon, Prisca Bordelais, Liam Lachaume \u00a9 Pexels Ce mercredi 3 d\u00e9cembre, au centre commercial de La D\u00e9fense (92, Puteaux), entre les passants press\u00e9s de rentrer chez eux ou de finir leurs emplettes, nous avons pris le temps de discuter avec certains d\u2019entre eux. 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